If humans are evolved apes, is the idea of 'innocence' meaningful (i.e. she lost her innocence far too young)?
“…TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET”
Death waved a hand. “AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.”
"Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what's the point—"
“MY POINT EXACTLY.”
-Terry Pratchett, The Hogfather
Von Krieger: Innocence is an abstract concept that does not exist.It is a purely social construct created by human beings. Its capacity for meaning or lack thereof is thus inherent entirely upon the views of the human society the girl/woman in question is part of.
Me: The quote you used is implying that if an environment isn't an agent of morality, an environment can't host agents of morality. Is that your argument?
Von Krieger: I'm saying that evolution has nothing to do with the concept of innocence or the lack thereof. It is a societal construct made by human beings, and its meaning or lack thereof is dependent entirely on what a given set of human beings decide to make of it. You might as well replace the word 'innocence' with 'Super Mario Brothers for NES'.
Me: There is no difference between an innocent child and a child that lost their innocence if innocence doesn't actually exist, correct? Is that your claim, elf-kin?
Below: Von Krieger's actual profile pic...
Von Krieger: Nope. That’s not what I’m saying. You’re not looking for an answer. You’re looking for an argument. After two Straw Mans and an Ad Hominim that’s three strikes, buster. You’re outta here! Blocked!
Me: lol
"Von Krieger: Innocence is an abstract concept that does no exist."
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