How is limit conditioned?
Student: Again what the hell are you talking about
Teacher: You didn't know that's how a relative reality is built? How come?
Student: "how is limit conditioned" isn't an intelligible question without context
Teacher: What allows limit to manifest?
Student: Limit of what?
Teacher: Whatever is limited (defined) will have relative rather than absolute nature.
Student: Well the limits of a thing are defined as part of the thing. It's not a separate quality
Teacher: If it has size, it's relative. If it has mass, it's relative. If it has speed, it's relative.
Student: What does this have to do with anything
Teacher: The Undefined is the Absolute.
Student: And if it's not defined you can't know anything about it, including whether or not it exists As soon as you know something about it, it becomes defined in some way
Teacher: You have to think about the question: how can limit exist without something to limit?
Student: Which takes it out of the category of undefined objects and into defined objects That also doesn't address things that are currently undefined but may be defined in the future
Teacher: Yes, from non-relative to relative. What makes something relative a real phenomenon? You have to think about the question: how can limit exist without something to limit?
Student: It doesn't. That's why I said the limit of a thing is one of its qualities, because limit isn't a separate, external quality.
Teacher: Spacetime isn't real?
Student: We don't define an ocean by everywhere it isn't for the same reason
Teacher: What do you mean it doesn't?
Student: "How can limit exist without something to limit" It doesn't
Teacher: Okay, so what is the limit being placed on? How would you get a mile's worth of measurement? Don't you have to have more than a mile to start with?
Student: Well measurement is arbitrary
Teacher: But that's beside the point.
Student: What I am saying is that you cannot have limit itself as a concept and nothing else
Teacher: What is there besides limited phenomena and unlimited phenomena?
Student: Andrew: I don't know of any unlimited phenomena
Teacher: Where is the wall closing in space?
Student: I don't think there is one?
Teacher: How else could you limit it?
Student: The limit for that is what we can observe Rather than an actual limit. There, the limit is our perception
Teacher: How could space be stopped?
Student: I have no idea
Teacher: Think about it for awhile. You'll realize it can't.
Student: No, you think about it for a minute. Is your ability to think of a way that it can't a sound reason to believe that it can't?That's fallacious reasoning.
Teacher: No that's the only way to realize. You can't just be told. There could be, I don't know, a giant cosmic eggshell around the whole damn thing
Student: But that isn't reason to believe that there is
Teacher: Then you'd have to deal with the outside of the egg
Student: When I say space, what I mean is the void seen in all directions
Student: That doesn't mean that it actually goes in all directions Perception vs actual
Teacher: How do you have an egg without an outside of an egg?
Student: I was making a nonsensical example to show it could be something beyond my ability to guess or speculate
Teacher: I know, but it was good you brought it up. Nothing you can think of can limit space
Student: But that gets back to perception vs actual
Teacher: Can you perceive anything if space had no objects?
Student: I mean there would be at least one object
Teacher: Why? Do you know what science discovered? Matter has wave nature. Waves can't be illuminated by light. So that which conditions objects is in a information state (non-spacial, non-temporal) And that which renders that information into perceptual form is our virtual reality simulator: the body Critical thinking about everything you're told: making sure it can actually work, is how you realize things. Nothing you can think of can limit space
Student: So what?
Teacher: It means you're in charge and Gods are imposters. And just like VR, this is probably only one (this reality) to be played from who knows how many? I'm guessing this particular game is how to have fun and freedom without it having been taken away from you by some invisible Law Giver. A psychological game.
Wouldn't you expect the mind inside the avatar would want to produce what the mind does outside the avatar? https://www.cnet.com/pictures/best-vr-games/
The fact that child prodigies exist falsifies the claim that intelligence comes from getting an education at learning institutions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oybU09RQUTs
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