Tuesday, 1 March 2022
Conversation on the Nature of Evil
Zion: So was hoping to address the “evil is in the eye of the beholder” statement. What do have to say in return to our question about the man and the woman?
Me: If he sees the woman as evil, is it wrong to destroy evil?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJwwIDCeqoU ['Devil Woman' by Cliff Richard]
Zion: So, the man captures a woman and in her captivity he rapes her and you’re saying that she could be evil and so should be raped and kept in captivity?
Me: You never answered my question. What if he didn't rape her? What if he just drowned her? Would you rather be raped or drowned?
Zion: So, you think that if a woman is beholden (believed to be) to be evil by that man that he is justified in destroying her and the evil in her?
Me: Would you rather be raped or drowned?
Zion: Neither. The question is which crime is worse? Drowning. Both are crimes and both are very harmful. With being raped, they are not killed and can recover sooner and easier. If I had to choose by some demented psycho I would choose the rape and then defend myself against that person while they did that. I would fight to the death.
Me: How many women did he drown in His flood?
Zion: Many criminals were righteously put to death in that flood. Are you saying they were unjustly tried and killed? He isn’t a demented psycho.
Me: I see. So, the women he drowned (worse than rape) were worthy to be drowned.
Zion: As ruler in and of himself and seeing how cruel, wicked and such the people of the earth were at that time and how they sought to kill, steal, and destroy it was in the best interests of him, his children and of others that they be righteously executed. Are comparing Him to someone like Ted Bundy.
Me: Why are you defending wicked women?
Zion: Killing someone according to law is righteous. Righteous execution is not murder. Ted Bundy is not a judge, and neither are you.
Me: "You’re saying that she could be evil and so should be raped and kept in captivity?" You said it, not me.
Zion: As ruler in and of himself and seeing how cruel, wicked and such the people of the earth were.
Me: You don't think they're evil today? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knmTgkWxBtA [17-year-old charged with murder for double shooting inside Indy gas station]
Zion: Based on your own belief [evil is in the eye of the beholder], if a man takes a woman and thinks that they should be punished by keeping them in captivity and raping them, is he right for doing so if they have not done anything wrong to him?
Me: What did the teenage girl charged with murder do to the Lord?
Zion: A teenage girl or teenage boy is just as capable of murder as an adult. Were you present at the time of the flood to verify those people are innocent?
Me: Your faith can't be falsified. If you want to prove man is evil, you point to a "woman killer". If you want to prove God is good, you point to a "woman killer".
Zion: I think you severely misunderstand.
Me: I understand perfectly. You use reason to justify whatever you want to justify. Atheists and Satanists use reason also to justify what they want to justify.
Zion: To stop people from self destruction and from killing others, it becomes necessary to stop them. In the course of stopping them, and they are insistent that they will NOT stop they. It’s be put to death. You must be the type who supports the prison system perhaps. I’m not saying I support these so called legal systems because we do not.
Me: If man does what God does, he's a demented psycho, correct?
Zion: You know so little of Him that you judge Him without ANY evidence except for what some jerk like King James coughed up. How little you know of your maker and how little you know of the science of etymology.
Me: Would you drown that 17 year old female murderer in your bathtub?
Zion: And it wasn’t a bathtub, and He isn’t a psycho.
Me: Would you drown that 17 year old female murderer in your bathtub?
Zion: If that teenage girl is going around killing people do you think she should be allowed to continue?
Me: Would you drown that 17 year old female murderer in your bathtub?
Zion: Of course, Him nor I would do such a thing.
Me: Why not? It's okay to drown evil doers.
Zion: If she were going around murdering people and stealing and destroying then do you think she should be allowed to continue?
Me: Would you drown that 17 year old female murderer in your bathtub?
Zion: We answered.
Me: What about infants that aren't old enough to commit evil? You defend an infant murderer, and you'll have to face judgment for that.
Zion: Does it say there were children who were drowned, or do you assume?
Me: Right. No babies during Noah's day even though it says they were given and taken in marriage.
Zion: Just because people get married doesn’t mean they are having children does it?
Me: The bible is a test to see what you'll defend. Now I know.
Zion: It is simple. You add to what is not there. You assume.
Me: You defend an infant killer. That was your decision, and the Light is well aware of it.
Zion: Show evidence in your bible of Him killing infants oh Accuser of the brethren. And I will show you your abortion system. Where’s your evidence oh man?
Me: No pregnant women during the flood, either?
Zion: Does it say there were?
Me: Is that your claim? In all the world, not one pregnant woman? You believe that?
Zion: No, it is not. Read it. Does it say there were babies that He drowned?
Me: That's what you call "Truth"?
Zion: It does say there were fallen. There were offspring. Does it say they were infants at the time of the drowning?
Me: In all the world, not one pregnant woman? You believe that? That's what you call "Truth"?
Zion: I know what we read, and I know what you are saying. You are presenting your own opinions with no credible evidence to support your position. Although your opinions are strong and can even be convincing, you still have no evidence to corroborate your opinions and false accusations.
Me: Publicly declare there were no babies or pregnant women that died in the flood. The Truth must be declared.
Zion: I publicly declare that you are arguing an argument that has no credible support. There is no evidence in scripture that innocent people or infants were killed in the flood.
Me: This is private chat.
Zion: You are fixed to fight against me and Him of course.
Me: Hello?
Zion: If he isn’t real what are you so worried about?
Me: This is private. Are you going to go public with the truth you told me?
Zion: Do you hate Him because you do not understand Him?
Me: Waiting for an answer.
Zion: I already have videos put with Him. Answer is simple Steven.
Me: Your video says no babies died in the flood?
Zion: There is no evidence that infants were killed at the time of the flood so what do you think our answer is fool?
Me: Give me the time stamp.
Zion: Show us evidence or stop this nonsense. Are you upset because you lost a debate?
Me: If there were, you're saying God is evil, right?
Zion: Your emotions have got the best of you.
Me: Since you won't answer, I know you're not truthful. Bye!
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